"It Will Not End Well
If We Don't Act Soon."
"The U.S. debt is growing much faster than the economy — and it is not sustainable."— Jerome Powell, Chair, Federal Reserve
When the Chairman of the Federal Reserve — the man whose primary job is to project confidence in the American financial system — stands before the public and says the national debt trajectory "will not end well if we don't act soon," it is not routine commentary. It is a warning from inside the building.
Powell has now made this warning repeatedly, across multiple forums and multiple years. In a December 2024 interview at the New York Times DealBook Summit, he stated plainly that "the debt is not at an unsustainable level, but the path is unsustainable, and we know that we have to change that." Earlier that year, in a February 2024 appearance on 60 Minutes, he called for "an adult conversation among elected officials" about returning to a sustainable fiscal path. In April 2025, he added that "no one really knows how much further we can go." The Fed Chair is not given to alarm. When he sounds one this consistently, it deserves a serious read.
The Numbers Behind the Warning
The United States currently carries more than $39 trillion in total national debt. In fiscal year 2025, the federal government spent $970 billion on interest alone — exceeding what it spent on national defense ($917 billion), Medicaid, veterans' benefits, transportation, and a host of other programs combined. That $970 billion in interest was the equivalent of roughly $7,300 per American household.
The trajectory is more alarming than the current figure. The Congressional Budget Office projects interest payments will grow 76% over the next decade, reaching $1.8 trillion by 2035 — faster than any other major budget category, including Social Security. Since 2020, interest costs have nearly doubled, from roughly $515 billion to over $1 trillion.
Interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire defense budget — a crossover that occurred in FY2024 for the first time in modern history and shows no sign of reversing.
Even the Rating Agencies Are Saying It
Powell is not alone. In May 2025, Moody's stripped the United States of its last remaining AAA credit rating, downgrading U.S. sovereign debt to Aa1. This made Moody's the third major agency to do so, joining S&P (2011) and Fitch (2023). For the first time in history, no major rating agency assigns the United States its top credit grade.
In its announcement, Moody's cited "successive U.S. administrations and Congress" failing to reverse the trend of large annual deficits and growing interest costs. The agency projected that federal debt — already above $39 trillion — could reach 134% of GDP by 2035, up from 98% in 2024, driven by interest payments, entitlement spending, and comparatively low revenue generation. It also warned that extending the 2017 tax cuts would add roughly $4 trillion to the debt over the next decade.
Moody's was not the only voice. JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon has warned that the U.S. economy is headed for a "cliff" if the debt trajectory is not corrected. Bridgewater founder Ray Dalio has described the fiscal situation as an "inflection point." These are not perennial pessimists — they are among the most establishment figures in global finance, and they are reading the same numbers Powell is.
What "Not Sustainable" Actually Means
The word "sustainable" has been softened by overuse. In fiscal terms, an unsustainable debt path means that without course correction, the government's ability to meet its obligations becomes increasingly dependent on new borrowing — and the cost of that borrowing rises as confidence erodes. It is a compounding problem, not a static one.
It does not mean imminent collapse. Downgrades in 2011 and 2023 produced short-term market volatility that eventually passed. History offers legitimate grounds for measured optimism: the U.S. dollar remains the world's reserve currency, and demand for Treasuries remains robust. But the same history also shows that nations do not escape debt crises without significant adjustment — and that the longer the correction is deferred, the more disruptive the eventual reckoning tends to be.
What makes the current moment different from 2011 is that deficits are growing during a period of relatively low unemployment and decent economic growth. As one economist noted, the U.S. is "running a 7% budget deficit to GDP in peacetime" — a level that would historically only occur during a recession or wartime emergency.
What This Means for Your Portfolio
For investors — especially those approaching or in retirement — the fiscal picture matters in ways that don't show up in daily market quotes. Consider the pressure points:
Inflation risk. One politically palatable path out of an unsustainable debt load is sustained inflation, which erodes the real value of what is owed. That same inflation erodes the purchasing power of savings, fixed income, and retirement distributions.
Interest rate risk. If markets begin to price in greater fiscal uncertainty, interest rates on U.S. Treasuries could rise beyond what the Fed controls — tightening financial conditions and pressuring equity valuations. After the Moody's downgrade, 30-year Treasury yields jumped toward 5%, a level that adds meaningful pressure to mortgage rates, corporate borrowing, and stock valuations.
Tax policy risk. Fiscal pressure eventually forces a political reckoning. Tax law changes — including rates on ordinary income, capital gains, Social Security benefits, and retirement account distributions — are all on the table in a serious deficit-reduction debate. Retirement income strategies built on today's rules may need to adapt.
Currency risk. Prolonged debt monetization can weaken the dollar relative to other currencies and real assets. An erosion of the dollar's reserve currency status — even gradual and partial — reshuffles the winners and losers in a globally diversified portfolio in ways that are difficult to hedge reactively.
The Case for Positioning Now
None of this requires a doomsday view to take seriously. Prudent portfolio construction has always accounted for the possibility that the political and monetary environment will look different in ten years than it does today. The question is not whether the fiscal situation resolves — it will, one way or another. The question is whether your portfolio absorbs that resolution gracefully or absorbs it painfully.
Inflation-aware positioning, income diversification, tax-location strategy, and stress-testing against a range of rate and policy scenarios are not exotic preparations. They are the kind of disciplined, forward-looking work that a fee-only fiduciary advisor is built to do — without the conflicts that come from product sales or commission-based relationships.
The Fed Chair has told you what he sees. So have the rating agencies. So have some of the most credible names in global finance. The question is whether your retirement plan is structured to absorb what might follow.
A fee-only, fiduciary advisor has one obligation: your financial outcome. No commissions. No products to sell. Just an honest assessment of where you stand — and a plan designed to protect it.
Sources & Further Reading
- The Hill — Powell warns of unsustainable fiscal path at NYT DealBook Summit (Dec. 2024)
- Fortune — Powell on 60 Minutes: "Time for an adult conversation" (Feb. 2024)
- Peter G. Peterson Foundation — Full Powell 60 Minutes transcript excerpt
- Yahoo Finance — Powell's long record of fiscal warnings (May 2025)
- American Action Forum — FY2025 interest payments: $970B, exceeding defense (Nov. 2025)
- CNBC — Moody's strips U.S. of last AAA rating (May 2025)
- Peter G. Peterson Foundation — Moody's downgrade analysis
- Western Asset — Market implications of Moody's downgrade
- EPIC for America — Interest surpasses defense; Ferguson's Law explained
- CSIS — Moody's downgrade and national security implications
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